Vital Visions: The Vedala Brothers Podcast

11: A Look Back on Season 1 *BONUS EPISODE*

Norman Regional Health System Season 1 Episode 11

As we wrap up 2023 and Season 1 of Vital Visions with the Vedala Brothers, Dr. Krishna and Dr. Veer look back on some of their favorite moments from this season’s episodes.  

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Welcome, friends.

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This is DR’s Krishna and Veer Vedala.

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And we are the Vedala Bros.

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So in this podcast, we'll be discussing
important medical topics

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that affect your community.

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We'll be looking into medical research
Health and wellness tips

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and also available health

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care resources brought to you
by the Norman Regional Health System.

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That's right.

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And in each episode, we'll also be joined
by medical professionals,

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local community leaders
and even some of our friendly neighbors

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as we talk through various issues
that are affecting our community.

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So if you want to lead healthy lives
or learn about the new healthy trends,

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we want this podcast to be your
go to resource.

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Welcome back, my friends. Dr.

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Veer Vedala here, joined by my co-host.

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Dr. Krishna Vedala.

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And we are the Vedala brothers.

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We've got a special bonus episode
for you guys today.

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First of all,

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we wanted to thank all of our listeners
for joining us throughout this whole year

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with a number of amazing podcasts
and amazing guests, right Krishna?

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Yes, it was truly
a very rewarding experience

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getting to meet some fantastic
people involved here within our norman

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regional community and of course,
the Norman Reigonal Health System.

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But so many memories, so many things
that we learned, a lot of things

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that I was actually kind of surprised by,
but truly a wonderful year.

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That's right.

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And as we approach the holidays,
we wanted to take a look back

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at some of our favorite memories
from this year.

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And for all of our new listeners,

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this episode will also serve as a glimpse
into what Vital Visions is about.

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So if you like
what you're about to listen to,

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you can go back
and listen to our favorite episodes.

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And thanks again for joining us.

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All right, Veer, what were some of
your favorite episodes this season?

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Well, Krishna, there's
so many great episodes this season.

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One particular one I really enjoyed
was the very first episode we recorded.

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Mental Health Matters.

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It's episode number two
and where we sat down with Ms. Lynn.

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Our resource navigator, Ms. Collyn and Dr.

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Javed.

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And we we talked about

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what mental health is all about
and why it's really important.

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And one of my favorite parts of that
episode was when he told us a story

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about one of his patients,
and he emphasized on why,

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you know,
all that patients want is is to be heard.

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Do you remember that one?

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Yeah, definitely.

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That's a big important part of 

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Patient care in general.

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But it's more emphasized by Dr.

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Jawed when it comes to mental health.

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So I have this had this one patient
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had been admitted to different
psychiatric facilities at different times.

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And then this patient started to get
admitted to our facility.

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And every time we,
this patient would come to the facility,

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we will have some conversations
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and what this person was supposed to do,
but they would not follow through.

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And we talk about the personality issue
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Sometimes
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or some may say arguments,

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and after three or four admissions,
I asked that patient one day, you know

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what, You have been doing this for a while
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and we do this and then you come back
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And why do you think
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And her answer was that
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admitted to the psychiatric facilities
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But when I come here
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and you have these so-called arguments
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it makes me realize that you actually care.
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That's great.

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And probably that's what I'm looking for
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You're fighting for them.

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Yeah, that's what they want.

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You fight for them and he does.

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He's the best doctor.

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He really is. 

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What about you, Krishna?

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What are some of
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Well, we had some wonderful episodes
that we did

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this season, and one of my favorite
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Sherri Jones,
our oncologist here at Norman Regional, and

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I really enjoyed the conversation
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specifically
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and how difficult it is to diagnose,
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when it's diagnosed, it's too late
and it's already in the late stages.

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And also when she really emphasized
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I think there are people that would like
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Sherri Jones really does a good job of 
explaining to us why it's important

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to stick to conventional treatment
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Yeah, we learned a lot on that episode
and all the various types of cancers.

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But here's a quick clip
about what we're talking about

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and one of our favorite
parts of our episode.

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Pancreatic cancer

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is one of our most difficult,
aggressive cancers.

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A lot of times before you realize 
patients can be asymptomatic,

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not having any symptoms when there is
a mass in the pancreas sometimes.

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And then this is something
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New onset diabetes

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can can be a sign.

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and in the treatment.

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Is tough, you know,
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you're
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Now, we've gotten a little bit better
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the treatment has a lot of side effects,
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But you mentioned something
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And and I think, you know,
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of his cancer, but in reading some of it,
he actually declined.

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And so we have a lot of patients

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that come in nowadays
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I might see two or three or four a month.

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some of those therapies, you know,
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vitamin C infusions,
just natural holistic medicines.

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They have been shown to help,
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man, I never heard of that.

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if they were shown to to treat the cancer.

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natural type of treatment. So,

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you know, we wish we had treatments
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we talked about the immunotherapy, but
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still cytotoxic chemotherapy
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what is your opinion about these,

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like prolonged intermittent fasting things
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and they're like saying it's autophagy
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So there's no evidence, there's
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It's actually like 72 hours of fasting.

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I think it's great for weight
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We, we don't want them to lose weight.

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It's you want them to lose their good
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We want them to stay strong and healthy
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There's, there's, there's
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for alternative medicines,

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but unfortunately,
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it can be tough to try
to relay that information.

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Well Veer,

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Of all the episodes.

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I knew one that you were really excited

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about and one that you were thrilled
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was the Functional Medicine
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Amanda Sadler.

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Yeah, I was a huge fan of that episode.

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I felt like we learned a ton. We did and
and because it's something

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that we're exposed to in medical school
and we learned a lot from Dr.

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Sadler and just hearing

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her inspiring story and learning about her
and all she does for our patients.

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But I think one of my favorite parts
was like things that we know.

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But the way she explained it to us
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eye opening and driven and inspiring.

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And it's when she talks about,

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you know, what are the

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right things that we need to eat
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You remember that?

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Yeah, it's it seems very simple,
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and it's not really something
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And I thought as we're approaching

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the New Year and New Year's resolutions,
this would be a great clip

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to share with our listeners.

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So guys, check this one out.

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we have to redefine what normal is
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If you take your average person,
they don't eat enough

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fruits and vegetables.
They're not exposed to it.

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So if you eat one more fruit, vegetable,
then whoever you work with, you're like,

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I'm doing good.

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Yeah, step into my house and you're like,
I'm not doing so good.

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Yeah,
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they get a good 5 to 7
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That's, that's
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And some athletes need upwards of 14
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That's a lot.

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But they've got a lot more calories
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and they're using those vitamins
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one of one of my basics is make sure
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with everything
I tell people, it's it's on a spectrum.

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but just get on the fruit
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I don't care if they're canned or frozen.

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Organic, out of your garden, anywhere
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And then after you get that and it's easy
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get very particular and optimize it
to whatever level you want to.

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Right? And the other one is healthy fats.

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Fats are the backbone
of all of our hormones.

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They make up all of our cell
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and outside of that phosolipid bilayer, 
lipid meaning fat

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inside and outside in our mitochondria
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And so I think like an athlete
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I want these good, strong,
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not this kind of rancid, yucky,
unhealthy fat,

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which is what typical Americans
get, (right) in a very general sense.

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We want healthy, unhealthy fats
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The standard American diet
gets 20 unhealthy to one healthy

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fat.

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And so that's
why we have so much chronic disease.

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And sometimes you just start to reverse that.

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And it is I have some patients
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or they can't afford it
or they don't have the means to do

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some of the kind of fancy stuff
I was talking about in that toolkit

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or do that stool test
and I can just go over the basics

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and work on that foundation of health
and their symptom trackers come back

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and they're so improved
and they feel great and they feel amazing

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and then they feel great
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then that's encouragement to keep
keep doing it.

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And so, you know, and that's that's
my goal is to create that.

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It's a lifestyle.

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It's not just, hey, we do this for a month
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those,
those healthy fats are vitally important.

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They're also energy as well, too.

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You were talking about with obesity
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metabolisms and get people
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if they're not able to,
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Fat holds toxins.

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and not let you burn or break down
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in the kind of flashy in a bottle type
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There's a plan, a diet plan
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But we do that and then kind of the weight
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and their metabolism
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It just there's just like so many ideas.

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And that was thank you for that
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There's just so much that comes into play
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It's just like but I think like function
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a little bit because I just finished a
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Brown adipose tissue
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sick adipose tissue like you're mentioning
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And I'm just like,
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I'm sorry, yes Krishna.

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go ahead with your question, I'm sorry
I'm loving this this time.

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Thank you for
being here. This is so great.

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What a great episode, right, Krishna?

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Definitely.

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That was a very informative episode
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Okay, Well, next up, Krishna,
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that you are just dying to talk about,
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but I want to hear it from you. Yes.

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So we shot some wonderful episodes
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but one of my favorite episodes
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Richie Splitt.

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We actually had to split that
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because of a lengthy conversation
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was when he talked about the four ps,

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the four ps, which was 
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but by the time the episode was over,

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we came up with the four ps
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And so the four ps
for all of our new listener

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and to our patients, people, progress,
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This is what Norman Regional is about.

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And so you'll hear from the boss
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The Norman Regional
Way by Mr. Richie Splitt.

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what do you think

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are things that that excites you
about the future of Norman Regional?

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there are so many things.

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I've touched on a few of those items.

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If I were to try to break it down
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First and foremost, it's our patients.

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How we can impact and help our patients.

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It's the people.

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Our people at Norman Regional
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So patients, people, it's the progress
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We talked a little bit about inspire
health and we're nearing completion.

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One part of that project,
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with our Norman Regional Nine facility
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So that progress is really exciting.

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It's really important to the organization

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and so that those are the things that are

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that are important to me
and that are on my radar every day.

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we again talked a little bit
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Today.

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Our potential is off the charts
and we are transforming our health system.

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And in doing so, it takes our people,

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our healers,
to translate that vision into reality.

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And we've got the best.

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You are two examples of that,
and I appreciate the work you both do.

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wow, You're too kind, sir.

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Thank you. That's the biggest compliment
I've received.

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It's it's true.

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And I you know, I have a loved one,
a family member who sees one of you

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for their care,
and they greatly appreciate that care.

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And so you guys make a difference
each and every day.

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But that translates into the potential
for our health system.

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And if we're really focused on health
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we have to do it through our people.

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And we've got the best.

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I don't know if you meant to

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do that, sir, but that was just excellent
wordplay because it's the four ps.

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It's it's patients,
people, progress, and potential.

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There you go. That was accidental.

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That was great.

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Heard it on the podcast.

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You heard it here first guys.

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That's why he's the boss man.

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Yeah, right? Such a visionary.

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Well, guys,
this has been our bonus episode.

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Thank you for joining us as we remembered
our favorite moments of the year.

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And as you all know,
we want our podcast, Vital Visions to be

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your go to resource for all health care
related topics.

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Finally, we can't end this episode
without a token of gratitude

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for all the people who made Vital Visions
a possibility.

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Starting off with our recording team, Mr.

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Jim Goldsberry and Emily Alinger,

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who are our producers, who make recording
and scheduling speakers a breeze.

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And of course, we cannot forget

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Miss Kayla Davis,
our wonderful marketing specialist

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who does an amazing job on all
of our social media content, and Mr.

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Garrett Fergeson
and the rest of the marketing team

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for all their help and all that they do.

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And of course, finally, Norman
Regional leadership for supporting us

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and sponsoring our podcast.

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And to our listeners who join us,
we do this for you.

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And this podcast has become such
a special part of our lives.

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So please subscribe and rate us
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Spotify and Apple Podcasts included.

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And that's a wrap.

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Happy holidays.

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And as always, stay classy, my friends.

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And stay out of trouble.

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