7: Functional Medicine - It Starts with Your Gut

Amanda Sadler, MD sits down to speak with the Vedalas about her journey to Functional Sports Medicine. Dr. Sadler tells us her life story going from athlete to medical school student, triathlete trialing for the Olympics to resident doctor and physician. Dr. Sadler’s path was a bit unconventional for a doctor, but her journey made her the physician she is today. You’ll learn valuable information about gut health and Dr. Sadler’s NMotion clinic in this captivating episode of Vital Visions!

Guest Bio:
Amanda Sadler, MD, is a functional sports medicine physician with Norman Regional’s NMOTION clinic.
Her special interests include: Concussion management, Gait analysis, Girls & women in sports, Gut health in athletes, Nutrient therapy, Sports performance & optimization, Specialty testing, Ultrasound guided injections & injection therapies

Dr. Sadler graduated from medical school at the University of Oklahoma and completed her residency at the Great Plains Family Medicine Program. She completed her fellowship training through the University of Oklahoma Primary Care Sports Medicine Fellowship program. Dr. Sadler herself comes from an athletic background, participating at the highest levels of competition including being a member of Team USA. Dr. Sadler has earned more than 30 international podium finishes, the world’s fastest IronMan swim time, more than 20 IronMan finishes and has served on the Sam’s Club: Healthy Living Made Simple advisory board, the NCAA Athlete Advisory Committee and the USA Olympic Triathlon Strategic Planning Committee.

Links:
Amanda Sadler, MD
NMotion Website
NMotion Location page
Blog – Doctor Amanda Sadler shares her vision
Blog – Sports Injuries: Sprains and Strains

This podcast is for educational purposes only. The information in this show is not to be used as medical advice. If you are needing medical care, please consult with your physician.

Norman Regional is hiring! See all our open opportunities here: https://careers.normanregional.com/careers-home/

Transcript

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functional
sports medicine is a fusion of medicine

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with exercise science,
rehab and nutrition

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that dwells into the secrets of peak
performance and transcending limits. And to

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discuss this with us today as our very own Dr.

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Amanda Sadler. Dr. Sadler,

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thank you so much for being here today.

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Krishna, you want to give a guest intro?

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Oh, yes, of course. Of course.
So today we have Dr.

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Amanda Sadler, who is a sports medicine
and also a functional medicine doctor.

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And she'll also be the director
of the upcoming N-Motion Clinic,

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which we're all really excited
and thrilled about. So Dr.

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Sadler, can you please tell us
a little bit about yourself

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and your interest in sports?

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So I grew up over in Enid, Oklahoma,
and my older brother

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and sister were already swimming, and
my brother was a pretty darn good swimmer.

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And so we were at swim
meets all in the summer,

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my first year here on Earth.

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And as the stories

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go, if my parents put me in some water,
I would be the happiest baby.

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And if they took me out, I was screaming
and crying and not so happy.

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And so I just really took to the water
and it's it's what I love and it's truly

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my happy place.

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And so I swam.

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I did a lot of other sports growing up,
but I really did.

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A lot of people are surprised are like,
How do you love the water so much?

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Growing up in Oklahoma and I tell them
I was in the pool literally all day long.

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We taught some lessons.
We start a swim lesson business,

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triple A swimming,
because all my sisters start with an A

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and my brother's middle
name is an A as well too.

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But we got so busy

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we had two pools running all summer long
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some practice and then I'd come home.

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We teach swim lessons in the morning.

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I had practice at noon to 1:00.
I'd come home.

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We'd teach some lessons.

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I go back for some practice
from 6 to 730 at night

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and then we hadn't played all day.

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So then we went to go play in the pool
until our parents would

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literally have to pull us out
and we had to draw straws to see the shortest

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straw, had to go in the house first.

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You never wanted to shortest straw, so

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lots of swimming in lots of other sports

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and swimming took me down to Texas
Christian University, TCU,

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where I swam down there and then I came
back here for medical school eventually.

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That's awesome.

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Life in life in the pool
constantly, huh? Yes.

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That's great.

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Um, so after you did
your medical school training,

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um, we heard that you had some experience
in the Olympics as well.

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Yes. So during

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it was actually overlaid
with medical school, so that's amazing.

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You know, there is

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a couple of days
before medical school starts.

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There was this
just one of those vivid days

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that I just remember so good
and I sat myself down.

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I was like, All right,
it's time to hang up your cap and goggles.

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I had Olympic aspirations in swimming
and kind of never met those.

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And so I was like, It's okay.

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You're on this next journey
to become a professional.

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I thought that meant putting on my white
coat, being all serious and doctor like.

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And so I was like, You're never going
to be in this good of shape

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for the rest of
your life. And that is okay.

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Well,

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I was at OU Medical Center,
and if anybody's ever been in there,

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they've seen the swim facilities
and so it's on the first floor,

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but there's a glass wall on one side,
the pool and the second floor

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of all the glass is where most people go
and work out in the gym.

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And I'd go up there
because it was my happy place.

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You got to relieve stress
when you're in medical school,

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and I'd be in there swimming,
sometimes studying.

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I'd have pharmaceutical stuff

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laminated on a kick board

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just so I could be in there and study
at the same time, great time management.

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This was at the Huff?

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Oh my gosh. Yeah.

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So I would do that.

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I would convince friends,

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They'd come over and I'd be like, stand
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I'm running on the treadmill.

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And I, we had a in the library.

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We kind of had our table and it was ours.

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We were there all four years of
medical school, and I had a little peddle

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bike under underneath the library
Just let me keep it there all the time.

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So and we'd go, I'd go.

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I did crazy things all through that,
just trying to keep active.

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But anyways, as I was swimming,
there was three doctors that stood

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up on the second floor

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and they would look down at me
and watch me swim back and forth

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and they're like,
You need to do a triathlon.

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And I'm like, No,

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I'm kind of done with my athletic career
and I just really love swimming.

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I don't own a bike and I don't really like
to run too much and just leave me alone.

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Well they were on me
my entire first year of medical school.

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So April is coming around
and I'm like, just, we have to stop this.

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I'm going to go do one triathlon and we're
never talking about this again, deal?

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Deal.

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So I go off to Claremore, Oklahoma, and I
do my not technically my first triathlon.

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I'd done a couple
when I was young called Iron Kids,

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but did my first what I would call my real
triathlon and had an absolute blast.

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And I was hooked.

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And I came back and I was like,
That was amazing.

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Yeah.

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And so if you remember back
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you actually have the summer off
between first and second year so I was like

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taking full advantage of of the summer.

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And so I did a couple of races locally.

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I qualified

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to go to the national championships,
went out there, won national championships

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and the next I'm headed back
to be back in school and Olympic training

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center's on the on the phone, you know,
inviting me out to train with them.

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Oh, my gosh.

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But I had that talk with myself
a year before.

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And a lifelong dream
was like on the other end of the telephone.

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And I said, hey,
you know, nope, I'm in medical school.

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I'm kind of done with that.
That was just my summer fun.

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And again, just like those three doctors
that were on me for a year,

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they were on me for an entire year.

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And I went and talked to school
and I had, took a medical

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leave of absence or from medical school
between my second and third years. Wow.

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I went dropped everything.

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As crazy as can be.

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Went out and drove out to the Olympic
Training Center in Colorado Springs.

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And I remember they,

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drove over and I was coming

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over the hills and just everything, just
the mountains opened up and I was like 

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Wow. Yeah.

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So from then I stepped on to to campus
there at the Olympic Training Center, and

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I went to 2004 Olympic trials.

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So I've been to Olympic trials.

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Didn't make that Olympic
team came back, finished medical school.

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Now it's 2008.

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There's usually residency next.

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And I was like, I can't do residency.

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And 2008 Olympics are coming like,
how am I going to juggle this all.

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So I took another big risk
and I said, I'm putting residency on hold

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and went through that that trials as well
too didn't make the team either.

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So I haven't been to the Olympics,

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but I've been to Olympic trials
multiple times and just the way scheduling

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was Olympic trials fell
after when residency would start, right.

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So now it's 2008

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and I'm like, Oh, I kind of have a year
to do whatever I want to do, right?

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Like that fun summer or a couple summers
again, summers before.

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And so I started to do some longer
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course triathlon, which is Ironman racing.

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First I did the half Ironman
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being a 2.4 mile
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And my career just really took off.

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And so I was a professional triathlete
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and then eventually it was kind of time
to come back to medicine.

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And when I decided to come back
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everybody's like, We didn't think
you were going to come back.

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Like, why are you coming back now?

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And I tell people,
it was never a doubt in my mind

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when I was coming back
or if I was coming back.

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It just things needed to align, right?

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I needed to kind of go off
and put my my whole effort into that.

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I'm still very active.

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I still have big aspirations and goals

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athletically, but kind of right now
my big focus is medicine.

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And of course also
my family had a couple of kids on the way.

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As well.

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Wow. Well, I just want to like,
I like, understand this.

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So you you took a year off between second
and third year, two years, two years.

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So you took you took step one? Yep. Took.

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Took two years
off, came back and did rotations

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and then you took how much time off
between medical school in residency.

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In 2006? I graduated.

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I started residency in 2017.

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How did you do that?

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And I didn't take to step three
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So yeah, you can imagine.

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So for the audience,

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Just just so everybody knows, that's

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A very
there's a reason for surprise for this.

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Yeah, that's a very difficult
task to do to be outside of medicine

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and then to come back
and then to reteach yourself everything.

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It's not an easy task. No.

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And so that's very, very impressive. Yeah.

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And so we're just that's
why we're all shocked.

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My gosh. Dr.

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Sadler.

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Sorry, Amanda.

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The biggest shock when I came back was
all the acronyms that have been created.

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You know, so much of medicine changed!
Of course.

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I'm like, Thank goodness for cell phones.
Now I'm like, What does that mean?

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What does it mean?

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Oh! I know what that is!
Yeah, I

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know we've had experiences.

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So Amanda, Dr.

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Sadler and I worked together at O.U.
For a couple of years.

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One year, one year.

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But I did not know this about you. 

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Dr. Coleman needs to publicize this more.

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Honestly, because just to think like,

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not only are you
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but the amount of dedication
that must have taken. You are amazing.

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We’re just blown away.

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This takes. And for our listeners
and patients out there.

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Norman Regional's lucky
to have someone like you, like

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we are so grateful for you
being here today because this has been

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eye opening to me and, and okay, so

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I know I'm sorry
we could talk about your life forever,

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but we need to talk

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about functional sports medicine,
Yes we do. So sorry, this is just so cool.

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One question. One question.

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So I went to Colorado Springs recently,
and one of the first issues

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that I had was the breathing problem
because of the altitude.

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So for those of you that don't know,
Colorado

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Springs is around,
I think, 6800 feet high.

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If you get to the top of Pikes
Peak, you're looking at 14,000. Yes.

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So why is the, you know,
the Olympic training set there?

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That's just to help accommodate
better with the height and the altitude?

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Definitely. Part of it is altitude,
part of it's just where it landed.

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Now, we have a lot of different
kind of satellite centers

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with where we go, depending on

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to really maximize and optimize
different sports and trainings.

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And so but also just a beautiful place.

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And for me, being in endurance sports,
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to run on great roads that were
that were safe to ride on.

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And it's a very beautiful place.

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Next time you go, take me.

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Go. I will. I will.
I will take you next time.

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But now let's. Let's move
on. Let's move on.

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Um, you know, can you tell us

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what got you interested
and what exactly is functional medicine?

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So functional medicine is, I tell everyone
I'm conventional medicine trained,

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kind of as we just just heard.

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And so I have nothing
against conventional medicine.

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But sometimes there are
there are some holes.

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And I just personally experienced it
through my athletic journey.

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And part of it was that I was
I was an extremely hard worker.

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Like I learned how to work hard
from a very young age

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and you just put your head down
and you get the work done. Right.

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So when I stepped on a campus
there at Olympic

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Training Center,
I went from kind of this fun things,

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just having fun with it,
lots of hard work behind me.

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And it leveled up immediately.

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Like all of a sudden you're surrounded
by the best athletes in the world

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with one goal in mind

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going to the Olympics
and winning gold for the United States

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in every in their respective sports.

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And so it's a college campus of that.

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And so when I got there and it was leveled
up, it was just you put your head down

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and get the work done.

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My body started to break down
and I trusted the doctors there.

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And I now, looking back, it's
because they were

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conventionally medicine trained
and they didn't know some things

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because they weren't
taught were exposed to it.

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And so no ill feelings at all whatsoever.

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But the problems
I were having couldn't be addressed

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from that conventional medicine model.

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And it took a really, really long
time for me to figure that out.

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I had severe

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shin splints and they were just like,
Oh, you've been in a pool.

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You're like water based now.

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You're land based.

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Like it's
almost that toughen up mentality.

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And so I'm like, okay, toughen up.

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Yeah, you know, you got big goals
and dreams and you just make it happen.

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And then I started to have intestinal
bleeding.

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Oh, my God.

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And the first doctor I saw there,
he was just like, well,

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you know, when you run, the blood
gets diverted away from your stomach.

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That's that's normal.

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And so a lot of my problems
became normalized along the way.

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And if you talk to other runners,
not that that's normal,

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but somebody who's experienced or heard,
somebody that's had that.

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And so it wasn't like these big red flags.

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And and so I had a lot of those issues
that were going on.

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But I like I said,
I just put my head down.

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I did the work and this went on for years.

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And when you look back at my career,
there were high highs

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and there were low lows.

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And it was I would be on this roller
coaster and it took a lot of learning.

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And and it's all of those
learning experiences.

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I'm more than blessed
because it puts me in a position now

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where I can do what I love
and help patients and kind of understand

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their mindset as well too.

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And so it fast forward several years
and I, my husband

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and I had moved up to Boulder
and I convinced him to buy a treadmill.

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And, you know, it
kind of came off as well.

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It's winter and it's snowy outside.

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But that wasn't the reason.

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The reason was
I couldn't run more than 3 to 5 minutes

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without having to go to bathroom.

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And I strategically placed the treadmill
as close as I could to the bathroom.

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So I wasn't having to interrupt workouts
too much.

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And so a couple of months later,
or not a couple of months

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later in January, flew off to Maui
to meet my team for a training camp.

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and the sun was shining
and it was just. It was.

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I was rip roaring
ready to go for training.

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And we went out to a sugarcane field
and it was about a two mile loop

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that we were running the team,
and the coach was standing there and

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he sends us off
and I come by on the first lap.

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He's like hollering at me, Stevens,
what's wrong with you?

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And I'm like, Nothing,
Nothing kind of wave at him and,

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like, run for a couple of seconds,
like, what's up with him and

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go again,

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again on another two miles and
and same thing.

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He's like, What? Are you okay?

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I'm like, Yes, I'm doing fine.

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And another two two mile loop
and kind of the same interaction goes on.

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And I just kind of
keep waving and smiling.

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And this goes on
for the entirety of the workout.

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And when the workouts done,

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he pulls me over the side and he's like,
Stevens, like, what's going on?

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I was like, What's what's wrong with you?

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And this kind of goes back and forth
for a little bit.

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And and then finally this light
bulb goes off in my head and I'm like,

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Oh, like you had your watch
running the whole time.

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Every time I had to jump in the sugar cane
fields to kind of relieve myself,

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I stopped my watch,
Just it's it's what I do.

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And so my running time
was actually really, really good.

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And I was as I was on paces and he grabs
me and he looks me in the eye.

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And he was the first person up
until this point to tell me

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that this was not normal.

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And he told me there's no more racing,
there's no more training,

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there's absolutely nothing
until you get this figured out.

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And so you would have thought
of all of the problems

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that I dealt with up to
this point would have shattered my career.

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But that was kind of what literally

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shattered my career
and my dreams and goals at that point.

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And so I went home and talked
to my husband and booked a flight home

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the next day went out whale watching
because I had the afternoon off first,

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but then hopped on that plane and it
I was like, All right,

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I haven't found answers
and I've got to dig deeper

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and I have to look different
and I have to approach this differently.

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And that was when I was introduced
into functional medicine.

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Um, I'm a relatively stubborn
human being too, so it took a lots of

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different providers and lots of different
learning over the course of years

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to get where I sit now.

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And, and that's, that's
why I practice functional medicine.

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It's not only important in me
and making me who I am,

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but I think it fills in the gap.

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What kind of work, functional medicine
or conventional medicine doesn't.

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And it's really about wellness
and optimizing health.

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In functional medicine,
we're also trained.

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We do what's called a symptom tracker.

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And so instead of just asking symptoms,
do you have them?

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Yes or no?

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When patients come the first time,
they get sent home with one

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and it's pretty in-depth
and ask if the symptoms,

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if they have them, there's a time stamp
and the severity stamp.

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So they have to grade them.

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They either have an occasional severe
or not

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severe, frequent, severe or not severe.

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And instead of just you have GI symptoms,
it goes through like you would kind of

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for a full review of systems.

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When that comes through,
some patterns will emerge for me.

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And if it looks like somebody has got
a lot of nutrient deficiencies or

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especially that mitochondria
I mentioned before,

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that just needs so many vitamins
and minerals and nutrients,

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then I always go back to the gut
because where do we get those things?

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Absorption, digestion, absorption.

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I mean I explain it
sometimes to patients to has they'll,

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they'll come in for, you know,

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kind of more of an orthopedic thing
and I treat that for sure.

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And, but I'm like

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we need to step back a little bit
and go to your gut when they're surprised.

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I always use the example
that if I went out to a first grade class

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and I'm like, what's the most important
organ in your body?

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Most of them are going to tell me,
Oh my gosh, my heart.

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Yeah. I'm like, okay, that's not it.
What's next?

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Oh, my brain, you know, that's control
center and why those are important.

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Yes, we can't live without them.

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But what feeds our heart, what feeds
our brain, gives it the vitamins,

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minerals, nutrients, calories,
all the things that we need our GI tract.

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So if it's not working,
then our heart can't work optimally.

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Our brain can't work optimally.

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And so that's why the gut is so important.

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The gut houses 90% of our immune system.

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So chronic illnesses
for athletes, chronic illnesses

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and injuries traces back to the gut.

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How does our soft tissues repair
as an athlete, you have to break down

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muscles and tissues to build them
back up stronger.

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What builds them back up stronger?

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And does that repair system,
our immune system housed in the gut

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As an athlete, what do you need?

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You need more calories, vitamins,
minerals, nutrients, all the things.

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If your gut is malfunctioning,
you don't even just get the basics.

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You're missing out on all the extras
that you need as well, too, Right?

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So kind of that's that's the two routes
people can come.

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They're not having those
GI symptoms where they are.

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And we do that.

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I do a stool test.

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It's a little bit different
than we've seen in conventional medicine

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and it tests for digestion.

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Do they have digestive capacity
and then what are they able to digest

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proteins as a protein fat malabsorption
And the fat malabsorption

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gets broken down into triglycerides,
cholesterol, phospholipids, all all down.

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It looks at inflammation.

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Calprotectin is a is a major
you guys are probably familiar with.

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It looks at that. So I've got some screen
to some stuff comes through.

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I'm like, look this is, this is definite
GI It's a type of a problem.

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It also looks at
what's called eosinophil protein X.

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Yeah.

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Which is related to most commonly

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with what I do like food allergies.

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And then and I make that distinction
in a second.

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I'll tell you why.

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Or also parasitic infections.

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it looks at in two different ways.

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So we don't miss anything by PCR
under a microscope as well too.

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And then it also looks
at what's called Fecal Secretory IgA.

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It's almost that immune system in our gut.

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When that increases, it gives me
an indication that we have an infection

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or that we have food sensitivities.

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And so there's food sensitivities, food
intolerances and food allergies,

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which a lot of times

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if people aren't well versed in it,
they just want them to get it together.

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Right.

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And so there's different ways
to treat them.

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And so I want to know those differences.

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And it also looks
at all of your gut microbiome,

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which we're learning more and more
about how important that is.

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And so it looks at the balance
of all of them from a phylum perspective.

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And then it gets all the way down
to different species probiotics.

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And then now we have prebiotics
probiotics and post biotics.

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And so it looks at all of that
all right. As well too.

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So it just gives you
it's just this whole to me, I'm like,

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Oh yeah, this whole wonderland
of all these interesting things.

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And so then I can really tailor
and individualize a treatment

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not just based on symptoms,
but based on what

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their stools is showing,
what's going on in their gut.

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So I'm just curious and this is something
maybe that the audience might also

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not really understand yet,
but what is the difference between

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prebiotic and probiotic and postboitic?

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Because we've

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seen the rise of pre and post,
especially in the last couple of years.

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Exactly.

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So great question.

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Prebiotics are what probiotics feed on

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Ok and so we can

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put tons of probiotics in you
and if they have any food well just like

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I was saying they don't they don't live
either they don't do their job.

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And I when I go through a stool test,

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I equate it to the garden and so cause

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Sometimes I have to weed the garden

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and sometimes I have to get the soil
better and plant good seeds,

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which will be probiotics
and fertilizer would be the prebiotics.

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But, you know, if you have a tomato plant

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but it doesn't produce any tomatoes,
well then who cares?

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So those are kind of
like those post biotics,

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what the probiotics produce
that helps our body, their metabolites.

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And they're really what keep our gut
gut lining really healthy

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because our gut um integrity

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and able to kind of not get leaky
and keeps those tight junctions tight.

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And so it's it's another simplified way
as people don't like knowing

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that bacteria's living in there
but they eat

451
00:21:12,756 --> 00:21:13,322
and when they eat

452
00:21:13,322 --> 00:21:14,722
they do the same thing we do, they poop in

453
00:21:14,722 --> 00:21:17,089
kind of those metabolites
or that poop that they make

454
00:21:17,089 --> 00:21:19,122
then as fertilizer to our, our system.

455
00:21:19,122 --> 00:21:24,054
And so that's the pre, pro and post biotics.

456
00:21:24,121 --> 00:21:26,454
And you
can take supplements for all three.?

457
00:21:26,454 --> 00:21:28,854
You can take supplements for them.

458
00:21:28,854 --> 00:21:31,253
There's a lot of food and nutrition.

459
00:21:31,253 --> 00:21:32,853
I'm always food first.

460
00:21:32,853 --> 00:21:36,319
So whenever somebody comes
in, it's with a treatment plan.

461
00:21:36,319 --> 00:21:37,319
They always have options.

462
00:21:37,319 --> 00:21:37,952
I tell them it's

463
00:21:37,952 --> 00:21:40,085
kind of like a choose
your own adventure I'm going to go through

464
00:21:40,085 --> 00:21:42,018
and we're going to figure out
the best thing for you.

465
00:21:42,018 --> 00:21:44,518
And so some people pick food.
They're like, Hey, that's easy.

466
00:21:44,518 --> 00:21:48,118
And some, if they're really depleted,
I'm like, Hey, we need to supplement

467
00:21:48,118 --> 00:21:49,351
very short term,

468
00:21:49,351 --> 00:21:51,051
but I need you to know
what food you're getting

469
00:21:51,051 --> 00:21:53,717
and you need to come back and verbalize,
Hey, these are my diet now.

470
00:21:53,717 --> 00:21:57,183
Now I can take away your supplements
as we transition

471
00:21:57,250 --> 00:22:00,683
into that
and make it sustainable for their life.

472
00:22:00,749 --> 00:22:03,549
So you have them like a food diary,
basically every.

473
00:22:03,549 --> 00:22:07,115
Yeah, every patient that comes in first
you come in and you do a 20 minute

474
00:22:07,215 --> 00:22:10,315
kind of consult
just to kind of hear about the practice.

475
00:22:10,315 --> 00:22:14,014
And I give them an intake packet
and that's it's pretty extensive.

476
00:22:14,114 --> 00:22:17,714
It speaks to their foundation of health,
which is their sleep, their exercise

477
00:22:17,714 --> 00:22:19,447
and movement,

478
00:22:19,547 --> 00:22:21,746
their nutrition, their stress,

479
00:22:21,746 --> 00:22:24,479
what stresses are coming from,
how well they can manage it.

480
00:22:24,479 --> 00:22:28,079
Also, their relationships and then their
social, mental, spiritual well-being.

481
00:22:28,145 --> 00:22:30,912
And then there's also kind
of your traditional medical history.

482
00:22:30,912 --> 00:22:34,878
They also keep a three day food
journal open for me as well, too.

483
00:22:34,878 --> 00:22:36,478
So I'm evaluating that.

484
00:22:36,478 --> 00:22:37,611
And then that symptom tracker.

485
00:22:37,611 --> 00:22:40,177
So that's the first intake that they do.

486
00:22:40,177 --> 00:22:42,443
I've got lots of different diets.

487
00:22:42,443 --> 00:22:46,343
Inherently, a diet is a short term plan,
so it's got a therapeutic reason

488
00:22:46,343 --> 00:22:46,976
behind it.

489
00:22:46,976 --> 00:22:50,042
And so usually those are 4
to 8 weeks in length.

490
00:22:50,042 --> 00:22:51,975
And then I have food plans.

491
00:22:51,975 --> 00:22:54,542
That's meant to be a lifestyle,
something that you can carry on

492
00:22:54,542 --> 00:22:55,942
for the rest of your life.

493
00:22:55,942 --> 00:23:00,341
You can get your whole family on board
and kind of continue that forever. Wow.

494
00:23:00,441 --> 00:23:01,607
This is awesome.

495
00:23:01,607 --> 00:23:05,374
This is like actually such
an important topic because Krishna and I

496
00:23:05,374 --> 00:23:07,040
are both interested
in like obesity medicine

497
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,773
and there's actually research
into like how a person's

498
00:23:10,839 --> 00:23:13,472
gut microbiome can change
as they gain weight and stuff.

499
00:23:13,472 --> 00:23:17,505
And so I think this is important stuff
for everybody to really

500
00:23:17,605 --> 00:23:20,405
focus and pay attention to.

501
00:23:20,471 --> 00:23:23,471
Can I ask you a question?

502
00:23:23,671 --> 00:23:27,337
So in terms of like

503
00:23:27,437 --> 00:23:28,404
improving

504
00:23:28,404 --> 00:23:31,370
your own gut health at home,
you mentioned food.

505
00:23:31,370 --> 00:23:32,903
Can you give us some examples of some like

506
00:23:32,903 --> 00:23:36,903
really good food for the audience
and ourselves to start eating more?

507
00:23:37,003 --> 00:23:38,669
Absolutely.

508
00:23:38,669 --> 00:23:41,435
The number one thing
and it's what we most of us know,

509
00:23:41,435 --> 00:23:42,535
you just need somebody to tell you.

510
00:23:42,535 --> 00:23:46,501
Again, you eat your fruits and vegetables.

511
00:23:46,568 --> 00:23:49,901
And a lot of times in my clinic
when I'm working with patients,

512
00:23:50,001 --> 00:23:53,000
we have to redefine what normal is
and what it means to you.

513
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,433
If you take your average person,
they don't eat enough

514
00:23:55,433 --> 00:23:57,233
fruits and vegetables.
They're not exposed to it.

515
00:23:57,233 --> 00:24:01,166
So if you eat one more fruit, vegetable,
then whoever you work with, you're like,

516
00:24:01,232 --> 00:24:02,632
I'm doing good.

517
00:24:02,632 --> 00:24:05,932
Yeah, step into my house and you're like,
Oh, I'm not doing so good.

518
00:24:05,965 --> 00:24:07,965
Yeah,
You know, my, my three and five year old,

519
00:24:07,965 --> 00:24:11,164
they get a good 5 to 7
servings of fruits and vegetables a day.

520
00:24:11,164 --> 00:24:13,797
That's, that's
and that's actually what's recommended.

521
00:24:13,797 --> 00:24:18,063
And some athletes need upwards of 14
servings of fruits and vegetables a day.

522
00:24:18,130 --> 00:24:18,597
That's a lot.

523
00:24:18,597 --> 00:24:21,130
But they've got a lot more calories
that they're taking in

524
00:24:21,130 --> 00:24:22,829
and they're using those vitamins
and minerals up.

525
00:24:22,829 --> 00:24:24,296
Yeah, a lot more.

526
00:24:24,296 --> 00:24:28,162
And so that's one one of my basics is

527
00:24:28,162 --> 00:24:29,795
make sure you get your fruits
and vegetables in.

528
00:24:29,795 --> 00:24:32,795
And I don't care where initially

529
00:24:32,861 --> 00:24:35,694
with everything
I tell people, it's on a spectrum.

530
00:24:35,694 --> 00:24:37,361
Yes, there are some
that are better than others,

531
00:24:37,361 --> 00:24:40,027
but just get on the fruit
and vegetable spectrum.

532
00:24:40,027 --> 00:24:42,193
I don't care if they're canned or frozen.

533
00:24:42,193 --> 00:24:46,959
Organic out of your garden, anywhere
you can get them, just start getting them

534
00:24:46,959 --> 00:24:50,392
in. And then after you get that
and it's easy and it's part of your life,

535
00:24:50,392 --> 00:24:54,625
then we can get very particular and
optimize it to whatever level you want to.

536
00:24:54,792 --> 00:24:57,791
Right? And the other one is healthy fats.

537
00:24:57,825 --> 00:25:00,824
Fats are the backbone
of all of our hormones.

538
00:25:00,891 --> 00:25:03,191
They make up all of our cell
walls, the inside

539
00:25:03,191 --> 00:25:06,557
and outside that phospholipid bilayer,
lipid meaning fat

540
00:25:06,723 --> 00:25:10,423
on the inside, outside in our mitochondria
is very fat dense.

541
00:25:10,423 --> 00:25:12,189
And so I think like an athlete,

542
00:25:12,189 --> 00:25:15,622
I'm like, man, I want these good, strong,
healthy, fat cells everywhere,

543
00:25:15,689 --> 00:25:18,722
not this kind of rancid, yucky,
unhealthy fat,

544
00:25:18,955 --> 00:25:23,854
which is what typical Americans
get. Right. In a very general sense,

545
00:25:23,954 --> 00:25:29,020
we want healthy, unhealthy fats
to be balanced in a good ratio.

546
00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:34,353
The standard American diet
gets 20 unhealthy to one healthy

547
00:25:34,453 --> 00:25:37,886
fat. And so that's
why we have so much chronic disease.

548
00:25:37,886 --> 00:25:39,752
And sometimes you just start
to reverse that.

549
00:25:39,752 --> 00:25:43,718
And it is I have some patients
that come in and either they don't want to

550
00:25:43,718 --> 00:25:46,251
or they can't afford it,
or they don't have the means to do

551
00:25:46,251 --> 00:25:49,017
some of the kind of fancy stuff
I was talking about in that tool kit

552
00:25:49,017 --> 00:25:52,817
or do that stool test
and I can just go over the basics and

553
00:25:52,884 --> 00:25:56,083
foundation of health and their symptom
trackers come back and they're so improved

554
00:25:56,083 --> 00:25:58,549
and they feel great and they feel amazing.

555
00:25:58,549 --> 00:26:00,216
And when they feel great
and they feel amazing,

556
00:26:00,216 --> 00:26:01,849
then that's encouragement to keep.

557
00:26:01,849 --> 00:26:02,482
Keep doing it.

558
00:26:02,482 --> 00:26:03,149
Yeah.

559
00:26:03,149 --> 00:26:05,449
And so, you know, and that's that's
my goal is to create that

560
00:26:05,449 --> 00:26:06,148
it's a lifestyle.

561
00:26:06,148 --> 00:26:09,548
It's not just, hey, we do this for a month
and then we shut it down.

562
00:26:09,648 --> 00:26:11,281
And so

563
00:26:11,348 --> 00:26:13,547
those,
those healthy fats are vitally important.

564
00:26:13,547 --> 00:26:15,580
They're also energy as well, too.

565
00:26:15,580 --> 00:26:17,214
You were talking about with obesity.

566
00:26:17,214 --> 00:26:21,046
And the metabolism
is such a big thing as well, too.

567
00:26:21,046 --> 00:26:21,713
And so sometimes

568
00:26:21,713 --> 00:26:25,479
we have to shift metabolisms
and get people to where they can access

569
00:26:25,479 --> 00:26:29,179
and burn fat if they're not able to,
they just keep storing it.

570
00:26:29,245 --> 00:26:32,411
Another thing in functional medicine
we look at is your detoxification

571
00:26:32,411 --> 00:26:34,811
systems. Well, the fat holds toxins.

572
00:26:34,811 --> 00:26:39,744
If if your detoxification systems are
overloaded, your body will self protect

573
00:26:39,810 --> 00:26:43,743
and not let you burn or break down fat
because it can't tolerate the toxins.

574
00:26:43,810 --> 00:26:46,509
And so sometimes it's more
we have to go to that toxin

575
00:26:46,509 --> 00:26:49,842
standpoint
first and get people, I don't detox in the

576
00:26:49,909 --> 00:26:55,675
in the kind of flashy in a bottle type
way, a nice slow detox through diet.

577
00:26:55,675 --> 00:26:59,008
There's a plan, a diet plan
that I have for that.

578
00:26:59,074 --> 00:27:01,707
But we do that and then kind of the weight,
will just start to come off

579
00:27:01,707 --> 00:27:06,807
easier and their metabolism,
will wake up in the process. Wow.

580
00:27:06,873 --> 00:27:08,906
It just there's just like so many things.

581
00:27:08,906 --> 00:27:13,472
I just yeah, that was thank you for that
very detailed explanation

582
00:27:13,472 --> 00:27:15,639
because there's just so much
that comes into play

583
00:27:15,639 --> 00:27:17,339
when it comes to functional medicine.

584
00:27:17,339 --> 00:27:20,105
And again, to emphasize
a lot of this is something that

585
00:27:20,105 --> 00:27:23,171
we don't really get trained
either in medical school or residency.

586
00:27:23,171 --> 00:27:27,004
And by the time we come out of practice,
it's usually our minds are set by what

587
00:27:27,004 --> 00:27:27,937
we've been trained to do.

588
00:27:27,937 --> 00:27:31,103
It's just like but I think like functional
medicine is kind of ahead of its time

589
00:27:31,103 --> 00:27:34,503
a little bit because I just finished a

590
00:27:34,569 --> 00:27:36,803
CME for obesity medicine
right becase I'm going to take 

591
00:27:36,803 --> 00:27:40,435
that boards certification soon
and they put a lot of emphasis on

592
00:27:40,502 --> 00:27:43,035
Brown adipose tissue,
and they even referenced

593
00:27:43,035 --> 00:27:46,101
sick adipose tissue like you're mentioning
right now and converting it.

594
00:27:46,101 --> 00:27:47,468
And I'm just like,

595
00:27:47,468 --> 00:27:51,634
this is blowing my mind right now
and I’m sorry Krishna go head to question.

596
00:27:51,634 --> 00:27:54,533
I mean, I'm sorry. I think you think
I'm loving this talk.

597
00:27:54,533 --> 00:27:57,533
Thank you for being here.
This is so great.

598
00:27:57,533 --> 00:28:00,999
So moving on from functional medicine
and now to, you know,

599
00:28:00,999 --> 00:28:04,432
one of the topics we're really excited
to talk about, the NMotion clinic.

600
00:28:04,499 --> 00:28:07,632
So would you mind telling us, you know,
what exactly is the NMotion for clinic?

601
00:28:07,632 --> 00:28:10,165
And then how did it
how did that idea come to be?

602
00:28:10,165 --> 00:28:13,031
So the NMotion
clinic is where I'm housed right now.

603
00:28:13,031 --> 00:28:16,230
We're off of Tecumseh in the ortho

604
00:28:16,297 --> 00:28:19,697
ortho central building and

605
00:28:19,763 --> 00:28:23,263
but they broke me off when I came on
as as my own separate clinic

606
00:28:23,263 --> 00:28:27,229
because here in October, we'll move over
to 24th Street by Embassy Suites.

607
00:28:27,229 --> 00:28:27,962
If anybodys noticed.

608
00:28:27,962 --> 00:28:29,695
In the big, huge building

609
00:28:29,695 --> 00:28:33,061
that that's coming up, That's YFAC, 
The Young Family Athletic Center.

610
00:28:33,128 --> 00:28:35,761
Part of that house in the center is

611
00:28:35,761 --> 00:28:38,827
Norman Regional's NMotion. 
We'll have physical therapy

612
00:28:38,827 --> 00:28:42,893
there. Our orthopedics that are sports
medicine will be housed out of there.

613
00:28:42,893 --> 00:28:46,493
And then kind of my clinic as it's growing
and we're bringing on new providers

614
00:28:46,559 --> 00:28:49,359
NMotion, is there. How it came to be?

615
00:28:49,359 --> 00:28:52,225
Well,
I was in my sports medicine fellowship

616
00:28:52,225 --> 00:28:57,258
and Heather brought me in to interview
me actually, for what is now Ortho Stat

617
00:28:57,325 --> 00:28:59,758
she they
they kind of knew that they wanted me,

618
00:28:59,758 --> 00:29:03,490
but they didn't know too much about my
my dreams and passions and everything.

619
00:29:03,490 --> 00:29:06,423
And I didn't know
what the job interview was about either.

620
00:29:06,423 --> 00:29:09,690
And so I came in and she's kind of
telling me about this Ortho Stat.

621
00:29:09,690 --> 00:29:11,889
Like me. I'm like, in my head.

622
00:29:11,889 --> 00:29:14,722
I'm like, She has no clue who I am
or what I want to do.

623
00:29:14,722 --> 00:29:17,688
Like, that's quick in and out,
Like I want to establish relationships

624
00:29:17,688 --> 00:29:19,488
and work with people and do all this.

625
00:29:19,488 --> 00:29:23,421
And I think my face clearly showed it
and and so good for her.

626
00:29:23,421 --> 00:29:26,387
She was just like, Well,
why don't you tell me what you want to do?

627
00:29:26,387 --> 00:29:27,887
That's awesome.

628
00:29:27,887 --> 00:29:29,753
Okay, you ask, Here we go.

629
00:29:29,753 --> 00:29:33,553
And so I have a dream board in my house
and it's been being created

630
00:29:33,553 --> 00:29:34,353
over, over years.

631
00:29:34,353 --> 00:29:37,786
And I didn't have the best name for it
NMotion fits pretty well now,

632
00:29:37,852 --> 00:29:40,352
but it used to be Amanda's Sports Mecca.

633
00:29:40,419 --> 00:29:43,418
And so it
was all these things that I wanted to do.

634
00:29:43,518 --> 00:29:44,918
And I'm telling her this

635
00:29:44,918 --> 00:29:48,884
and I think she picked up on the passion
in my voice too, and was like,

636
00:29:48,984 --> 00:29:50,284
Hold that thought.

637
00:29:50,284 --> 00:29:53,284
And she turns over to her
computer and up pops

638
00:29:53,450 --> 00:29:55,583
what they're working on
for NMotion. Yeah.

639
00:29:55,583 --> 00:29:59,016
And she was like, Does this sound like
something you'd want to do?

640
00:29:59,016 --> 00:30:01,949
And I'm like, Absolutely, 100%.

641
00:30:01,949 --> 00:30:04,949
And she was like,
We didn't know you existed.

642
00:30:05,149 --> 00:30:09,115
This isn't slated to open, but
how do we get you now and get it going?

643
00:30:09,115 --> 00:30:12,181
And so that kind of started the ball
rolling and we've just been working on it.

644
00:30:12,181 --> 00:30:13,614
It's a work in progress.

645
00:30:13,614 --> 00:30:18,113
Everything's new and exciting
and so we, you know, we meet it,

646
00:30:18,347 --> 00:30:21,880
it seems like all all the time on it,
trying to get things up and running

647
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,046
and just kind of create this
this beautiful thing

648
00:30:24,046 --> 00:30:27,812
that's that's state of the art to
to optimize health, wellness

649
00:30:27,912 --> 00:30:30,845
and to help all of our athletes out there.

650
00:30:30,845 --> 00:30:32,111
That's great.

651
00:30:32,111 --> 00:30:36,278
I'm so we're so happy for you
because that is the dream, right?

652
00:30:36,344 --> 00:30:37,144
What are the odds?

653
00:30:37,144 --> 00:30:39,144
Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of funny.

654
00:30:39,144 --> 00:30:41,277
I've been over the entire world.

655
00:30:41,277 --> 00:30:43,643
Like I said, I've lived in Colorado,
we lived in Arizona,

656
00:30:43,643 --> 00:30:46,376
and those places are a little bit
more ahead of Oklahoma

657
00:30:46,376 --> 00:30:48,876
when it comes to functional medicine.
Those services.

658
00:30:48,876 --> 00:30:51,609
They're not mainstream,
I wouldn't say, but they're more common.

659
00:30:51,609 --> 00:30:55,475
And while I love those places,
it would be nice to live there.

660
00:30:55,542 --> 00:30:57,675
My hope and dream
that was also kind of mixed

661
00:30:57,675 --> 00:31:00,741
into the Dream board was that
I wanted to do it here in Oklahoma.

662
00:31:00,741 --> 00:31:02,941
Like I wanted to be the spark

663
00:31:02,941 --> 00:31:06,540
that kind of just lit, lit up
Oklahoma and got us on this journey.

664
00:31:06,540 --> 00:31:07,807
And so

665
00:31:07,807 --> 00:31:10,739
and of course, we have family and I'm
from here, so we've got some roots here.

666
00:31:10,739 --> 00:31:14,139
But the fact that, yes, it just
kind of all came together and I remember

667
00:31:14,239 --> 00:31:16,205
I walked out there to my husband,
I was like,

668
00:31:16,205 --> 00:31:18,505
that was kind of the oddest meeting
and went from one thing to the other.

669
00:31:18,505 --> 00:31:20,038
And all of a sudden
my dreams on her computer

670
00:31:20,038 --> 00:31:22,538
and it's here in Oklahoma, like,
What are we doing?

671
00:31:22,538 --> 00:31:26,404
I had interviews set up in Arizona,
and Colorado as well, too.

672
00:31:26,404 --> 00:31:27,870
And, you know, kind of

673
00:31:27,870 --> 00:31:30,870
when we teased all through it,
I was like it just it couldn't have been

674
00:31:30,970 --> 00:31:33,003
more perfect. Yeah.

675
00:31:33,103 --> 00:31:37,102
Wow. Well,
you know, to have such an amazing provider

676
00:31:37,102 --> 00:31:42,035
like you offer
such a unique experience for our patients

677
00:31:42,102 --> 00:31:46,734
and you're only here at Norman Regional,
so we're very grateful.

678
00:31:46,801 --> 00:31:48,168
Um, again, Dr.

679
00:31:48,168 --> 00:31:51,434
Sadler, thank you so much for being here
and really appreciate you

680
00:31:51,534 --> 00:31:54,400
sharing your journey with us
and sharing your wisdom with us.

681
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,566
And uh, and usually
at the end of our episodes, we,

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we ask all of our guests to say,
Hey, if there's one thing you would like

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to share with our listeners, you know,
what would that be?

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Chase your dreams.

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Have fun doing it.

686
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Wiser words than that.

687
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If you're happy with what you're doing,

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success will follow.

689
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Which that was a great example of.

690
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We cannot say enough just how impressive
your your journey has been.

691
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You know, from getting into,
you know, being an athlete all your life

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and then getting into medical school
and then going back to being an athlete

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and then coming back
and then doing things back and forth.

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That takes a lot of persistence
and especially

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trying to come back into medicine
after being out of it for so long.

696
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That is not an easy task.

697
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And so it's just I'm just mind blown,
just that that aspect of your journey,

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I mean, everything else, of course,

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But that aspect most importantly is
just something that's just mind blowing.

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So once again, thank you so much for, um,
you know, for coming by.

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And we really appreciate,
uh, everything that you do here

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in Norman Regional
and we're super excited.

703
00:32:56,758 --> 00:32:59,424
Thanks for having having me today again.

704
00:32:59,424 --> 00:33:01,257
And thank you
for what you guys are doing with

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with this podcast
and getting wonderful things out there.

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That we have fun doing.

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So that's why we love to do. Dream.

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Driven fun.

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Well, guys, don't worry.

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We will have Dr.

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Sadler back again
to talk to us more about N-motion

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and everything else that she's doing
and the new services that she's offering.

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But thank you for joining us today.

714
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And as always, Dr Veer Vedalal here.

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You stay classy, my friends.
And stay out of trouble.